After reading the lugubrious warnings in Waring, Townsend & Lewington, I don't really want to have much more to do with the Epirrita. But if you can answer this question just from my pics, are all these four residents of this morning's trap the same species - eg November moths? Martin Wainwright aka Baffled of Thrupp, Oxon.PS While going the extra mile, can anyone hazard a guess as to the battered visitor below? A Wainscot of some kind is my best shot. Also in the trap: a very fresh-looking Common Marbled Carpet and three long-lasting Large Yellow Underwings.