The first does not have the black stripe on the front of the collar and the forewing measured 19mm. Would this be a Turnip Moth?
The second was smaller with a forewing of 15mm, and the markings looked different from the other Heart and Darts. Could this be a Heart and Club?
Finally, can I add a micro to this posting. The forewing was 8mm and it looked more silvery than in this photo. Suggestions welcome.
Steve Trigg, Cookham